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while the expedition 40 crew members

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continue to work throughout their busy

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work days they'll aboard the space

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station will take some time to look at

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another vehicle NASA is getting ready to

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launch its new human spacecraft Orion

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into space for the first time in

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December getting around into space is

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only a part of the mission just as

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important is getting Orion safely home

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Orion will travel 3,600 miles into space

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before we entering the Earth's

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atmosphere and splashing down into this

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Pacific Ocean we're a team of NASA and

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US Navy technician and engineers will be

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waiting to retrieve it some of the

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members of that team were here at the

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Johnson Space Center just last week

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testing out techniques for the retrieval

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and my colleague brandy dean went out to

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the neutral buoyancy lab to talk to them

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we'll listen to this now this is tim

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daughter he's the dive manager here at

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the neutral buoyancy laboratory and he's

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going to tell us a little bit about the

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recovery plans for Orion thanks for

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joining us Tim and welcome so since the

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last time you guys came out to visit

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we've been to see during that evolution

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of at sea trials we experienced a

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rougher than expected sea conditions

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inside the well deck out it you know

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outside the well deck it was a sea state

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one nice calm glassy we should probably

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I'm sorry pause and described with the

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well deck it okay so we are doing well

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debt recovery that's on an LPD class

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amphibious ship the well deck is the

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submersible area where they bring in elk

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acts the air-cushion vehicles or the

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landing craft they'll bring them in and

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out of the vessel you know the well deck

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is can go up to about eight or nine or

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ten feet so we're gonna do the same

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thing we're bringing the capsule inside

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of that while it's submerged we're

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controlling it by tending the whole time

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and then we'll baladi ballast bring the

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well deck up and set it down inside of a

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cradle what we realize that what the

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Navy didn't know and we didn't know was

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even in a calm sea state if we have the

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right wave period the wave starts

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pitching the ship starts pitching and

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that becomes a chaotic effect inside the

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well deck okay so everything that you're

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going to see today is to mitigate out

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all of the the loads that were greater

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than expected the last series okay and

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you've got a couple of different things

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you're trying for them all right what

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are they what'd you see back here is a

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slick capsule right now we're going to

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go right into Plan B are lifting it

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sighs I innovate we cannot do a well

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debt recovery we're going to use

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different classes of ships to use a

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knuckle boom crane to come over and just

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do a standard lift at sea so we'll pick

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the cradle otra castle up get it over

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some point of the ship and then set it

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down and its cradle all in a dry

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environment okay but to do that it

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requires the divers to go out in small

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boats attach a bunch of different lines

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and get them all wait you know ran the

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right way before they bring it up before

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the ship's comes along the side and then

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find the ship will drop its crane down

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which we're going to simulate with our

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overhead crane and then they'll hook up

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divers will back up they'll pick it up

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and then set it down in the ship okay so

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this is a plan B if we don't if we're

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not able to bring it into the well deck

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like we talked about this is another

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option this is another outfit I guess

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we're going to try out I guess at the

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end of the month on our next recovery

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test in the ocean off the coast of

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California that's correct starting at

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the beginning of august or the end of

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july we're going to be out in san diego

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simeone again we're most likely we're

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gonna be on the leeward side of San

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Clemente or one of the other Catalina

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Island out there it's in a protected

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area we can get the sea state we want

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and we can try the well deck recovery

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options again what we're going to do

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later which you can't really see here

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but I have a horse-collar system what

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that allows us to do is spread the load

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path out on tending and towing and

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handling the capsule in general what it

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does last time we had some point loading

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that we were breaking some straps which

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were designed to fail but the greater

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than expected load were mitigating that

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by spreading that load path all the way

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around the scum person capitalist oh

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okay well so you've been practicing for

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a little while I think it kind of on and

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off this week and how is it going so far

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we made a lot of progress on on Tuesday

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and yesterday we went back to the

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drawing boards and made a lot of

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engineering changes and then we're back

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going final changes before we go out to

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San Diego for the test run next month we

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also have the Navy divers in the

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facility about a month ago looking at

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this from there from what they saw of

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our initial designs which we came up

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with a KSC at a group meeting that was

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our version 1 this is version 2 point 0

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on all of our hardware okay well so you

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think we're ready to go back out to the

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ocean I think we're ready the Navy has

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bought off and what we're doing we made

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a lot of good changes we're going to do

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tweaks of final stuff in the next couple

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days we're going to take it out to San

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Diego and do some fit check next next

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week in a dry environment

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they're all supporting operation REM

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pack in San Diego right now the ship

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will come in and divers will come in

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will do a great meeting group meeting

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run through it all on a dry dive again

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and then finally go out to sea and

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practice it one more time all right well

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I think we'll look forward to hearing